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gurdymonkey ([personal profile] gurdymonkey) wrote2010-07-17 03:02 pm

Get a room, she says!

[livejournal.com profile] didjiman  was not, in fact, talking dirty to me, [livejournal.com profile] la_peregrina.

This represents the stroke order for the characters that comprise my Japanese name. Well, most of it. I got the distinct impression that the COH is going to turn me down over the use of "Hanae" instead of "Hana," and I will not disturb my harmony fighting with barbarians over one dumbass letter of a name that nobody addresses me by ANYWAY. 

Last Labor Day [livejournal.com profile] didjiman  calligraphed my name along the right border of this (the large character is "Ai" or "Love." so the only kanji missing would be the one on the bottom.



It is my hope to one day be able to write my name properly.

[identity profile] erink.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice! Everybody should know how to write her name.

I think there are web animations of how to write various kanji characters, in case you forget. Though it's probably easier to ask someone again than to look them up in an index.

Hmm, actually, there might be a small error in this document. That first letter (sai/nishi, west), fourth step doesn't make sense to me - it looks like he wrote the left vertical line and the upper horizontal line together. I learned to always write the upper horizontal line and the right vertical line together, after the left vertical line. (That little quirk is very important since one of the ways to look up kanji is by stroke number - you need to know that counts as one stroke and not two.) It's done correctly in the second letter (and in the calligraphy, for that matter).

Haname (-me being the character for woman) might be defensible, if you care.

I wish the society would register kanji for Japanese names (at least, our College of Arms, in Aethelmearc, does not). Without the proper characters it's like recording the ripples in the pond but not the pebble that made them.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2010-07-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
1. My "virtual calligraphy sifu" is from Hong Kong. That may make a difference. Besides, I don't want to attempt this anywhere NEAR my computer, particularly once I graduate from pencil to brush and ink.

2. I don't like how Haname sounds though.

3. They're not going to register Cyrillic or Arabic or kanji. We're all furriners to them.

[identity profile] cryptocosm.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
As regards point 3, those of us who deal in the registration of names need to be able to read everything we register. I can puzzle out Greek and most of Cyrillic; I was starting to pick up the modern Korean characters when I lived there, but I've lost those since. Hebrew, Arabic, and the Oriental languages are just too much - and if we permitted one, in fairness we'd probably have to admit them all.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I can't read 'em either, my friend and I'd be willing to bet that lion's share of minority personae can't read or write in their persona's languages anyway. It would be nice if we had specialists in these languages for heraldry purposes, but it's just not realistic.

As an aside you might find interesting, the book I recently finished reading compared a number of texts describing the same series of events, including whether third hand Portuguese phonetic renderings of Japanese names (or Japanese renderings of Portuguese names) had any bearing on who might have actually been present, Nautaquim/Naotoki, for example.

[identity profile] didjiman.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Rest assure that I can write
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as a single stroke even if I try :-) (actually, I can of course, in script form, but that would still be vertical down, lightly lifting the brush to do the horizontal, but I digress...) The 4th one, I wrote

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first then the horizontal. It's true that the horizontal should immediately go to the right vertical, as shown in the 5th pictograph. Not sure why I stopped like that on the 4th one. Probably I meant to only write the vertical for the 4th one. I blame it on the fact I was using a sharpie in order to show the cleaner strokes for Ms. Gurdymonkey.

Ha ha, of course when you are writing script, the order is slightly different :-)

[identity profile] karisu-sama.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Rest assure that I can write

Mr. Native-Chinese-speaker meant "cannot" in that sentence, but he also "cannot" edit because he is cheapass and has only a basic account. :p

-- [livejournal.com profile] didjiman's wife

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!

[identity profile] didjiman.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, forgot to resize the pic...

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On second thought, use this stroke order for "west:"



The management apologizes for the confusion.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, sweetie!

MUST get over my right-to-left habits. I looked at that three times and wondered how the third stroke went. DOH! Now it makes sense.

I should get one of those Buddha Boards, I'm thinking. First my name, then enssho!

[identity profile] didjiman.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ha ha, yes, once you get used to it, there's nothing to it.

Good luck.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
So you said on the death march to Panorama Point, tomodachi.

[identity profile] la-peregrina.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I stand corrected and apologize. (Still, with Noo and Kee starting off that thread, the double-entendre was understandable.)

As for writing your name properly, I have no doubt you'll do it.

Again, my apologies. I needed a laugh with all of the drek happening to me of late, it was at your expense, and I am sorry.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kidding! I wish you could meet didjiman and karisu-sama. They're very cool, creative people.

[identity profile] la-peregrina.livejournal.com 2010-07-18 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
If and when I can manage to either sell this house or win the lottery, and get a job, I'll make my way out there the first chance I get. I wish I could meet them, too.