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gurdymonkey ([personal profile] gurdymonkey) wrote2007-12-16 05:52 pm
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Details of men's kariginu

Sorta for my own reference, but feel free to look:

These are from a site that makes costumes for gagaku performances.

http://gagaku.suki2.com/product/img/shinkan/kariginu_ainezumi_gatyo.jpg

Nice detail of collar construction and frog closure.  http://gagaku.suki2.com/product/img/shinkan/kariginu_moegi_gatyo.jpg

Hats! Er, I mean, eboshi.

[identity profile] kass-rants.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Have another collar pic, for reference:

http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/image_lib/collar.gif

I probably could get you a higher-res version if you like.

And I might have some schematics of kariginu and suikan for you.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks. If you have better, great, if not, I think I can work with the one from the gagaku people. I have Effingsensei's PDFs for the schematic bit - all rectangles except for that angled front panel bit (reminds me of the shapes I used for my mo).

[identity profile] bebemochi.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
oooh, I really like the frog closure at the neck. It's different than any one I've seen.

[identity profile] takadai-no-tora.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Is the collar stiffened or just padded, maybe by being folded layers? I love the detail on the frog.

[identity profile] kass-rants.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to find the program that made it first.

I think Effingham is drawing from the same source for his PDFs as I'm offering to copy for you. If you want to see what the original schematics look like, you let me know.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that I cut this out and started assembling sleeves yesterday, the point may be moot.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly not sure. I suspect that the presence of the cord underneath adds some of the body.

[identity profile] eleryth.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Would scans/photos from Ishou Jidai no Nuikata help at all, or do you have those already?

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I already have schematics to work from that were taken from IJN, thank you.

(I want this book. I CANNOT rationalize paying for this book at this time, especially with the dollar so weak.....)

[identity profile] eleryth.livejournal.com 2007-12-18 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Our dollar is stronger now, but even with that and the buying power, I just don't have the funds to do so. I bought the book when I did have much more spending monies, but have yet to use it, sadly, aside from flipping through the pages. One day, though, I will.

Until then, and after that point, I shall continue tow atch your progress and be inspired by your works.

[identity profile] bovil.livejournal.com 2007-12-19 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's also no longer available at Amazon Japan, so you're safe (unless you know of another source?).

[identity profile] bovil.livejournal.com 2007-12-19 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I wish I could remember where (probably Sengokudaimyo) but I remember something about the collar being built over a paper/card stabilizer.

[identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com 2007-12-19 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I just took a spin through the descriptions over on Sengokudaimyo and couldn't find it. However, the paper technology certainly existed, so it's a viable possibility.