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reynardine putting the word out, I ordered a copy of this. I figured it would be worth adding to my library. I figured I MIGHT even get around to finally registering my Japanese name and coming up with a device to go with it.
So I open the already damaged box that looks like it came through a war and the book is fine and in one piece. Woo hoo, I now own a more current edition than the kingdom heralds and it's one of the no-photocopy references, which means I might be able to save a tree and a bit of postage during the submission process. I find the elements I need for the given name in about a minute and a half and write down the page numbers. I laugh my ass off at whoever was responsible for an entire chapter with page headers of "beats and monsters" - did I mention this is the revised edition? And then I spend a great deal of time combing through all the sections on surnames, uji and known historical names and figures and cannot find "Saionji" anywhere. ANYWHERE.
The Saionji were a cadet branch of the Fujiwara who rose to some prominence in the Kamakura period, right? Saionji Sanekane served as a liason between the Imperial court and the Kamakura shogunate in the mid 13th century and is a figure in the diary of Lady Nijo and I even found a fragment of a poem by Sanekane in the Kyoto National Museum Collection! They existed. I know it's a locative name, Hell, even Wikipedia acknowledges their existence.
In other words, I can document it up one side and down the other, but I'm going to have to generate more paper to do so. Big huffy sigh.
I will, of course, go look again tomorrow when I am not so completely brain fried by a sucky week at work - but I doubt I'll find it.
I have been enjoying Tales of Times Now Past this week and am fairly close to the end of it. Today, I was musing upon a story I knowtatsushu will remember. It's basically an extended poo joke that rather reminds me of the pie eating contest story from Stand By Me. A minister owes his retainers their salary in rice and doesn't pay it. They show up at his home en masse to demand it. He keeps them waiting outside the gates on a hot day for several hours, then allows them in in small groups, offering them salted fish and ripe plums (and notably no rice), which they devour. The sake is served very late and it is pretty foul, but they're so thirsty they drink it all. Finally the minister appears and explains that the harvest has been so bad that season that his housemaids are going hungry and they don't have rice to serve to guests, much less pay retainers with. Intestinal rumbling and fartage begins to ensue. Soon they're all running for the exits with horrible diarrhea, because their strategically chosen refreshments had been laced with an herbal laxative as well. This humiliating joke is taken with remarkably good spirits by the victims who, instead of trying to avenge themselves on the man who still owes them their pay, marvel at his cleverness.
So I joined the WK Artisan's thingy. Navigation of the site is not exactly intuitive, and I'm honestly not certain whether that's bad design on the part of the forum or my own Luddite tendencies to misunderstand the design of the forum. I resolutely steered clear of the discussion on the bardic forum, created a profile, tossed up a handful of photos and got two very nice notes. One was from a lady from Oertha who I met more than a year ago at Estrella and barely remembered until she gave me a memory jog (I'd helped with some garb questions for her son), The other was from a man from up near Mount Shasta who I have not met, and who saw my profile and went to my website link for a look around. His daughter is interested in Japanese culture though she "gets it rather off center." (Hmmm, anime fan, perhaps? If so, she would not be the first.) He wrote: "If the opportunity arises, I would like her to meet Saionji and gain some understanding. Perhaps a "gift" of period era coins made for your persona would meet a tuition fee. Tell me your era and I crank them out." After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I thanked him for his kind thoughts, then told him that the Japanese didn't even mint their own coins until the 17th century. Remember the guys demanding their rice rations? Japan measured income in rice during our period, and what coinage they did use was bought from the Chinese.
Please go admire this.erink did a beautiful job.
Please go admire these. I knew Katherine was awesome when I met her at Pennsic two years ago, but now she's doing JAPANESE!!!! I am extremely jealous. At least she's letting me snag photos for Samurai Eye.
reynardine putting the word out, I ordered a copy of this. I figured it would be worth adding to my library. I figured I MIGHT even get around to finally registering my Japanese name and coming up with a device to go with it. So I open the already damaged box that looks like it came through a war and the book is fine and in one piece. Woo hoo, I now own a more current edition than the kingdom heralds and it's one of the no-photocopy references, which means I might be able to save a tree and a bit of postage during the submission process. I find the elements I need for the given name in about a minute and a half and write down the page numbers. I laugh my ass off at whoever was responsible for an entire chapter with page headers of "beats and monsters" - did I mention this is the revised edition? And then I spend a great deal of time combing through all the sections on surnames, uji and known historical names and figures and cannot find "Saionji" anywhere. ANYWHERE.
The Saionji were a cadet branch of the Fujiwara who rose to some prominence in the Kamakura period, right? Saionji Sanekane served as a liason between the Imperial court and the Kamakura shogunate in the mid 13th century and is a figure in the diary of Lady Nijo and I even found a fragment of a poem by Sanekane in the Kyoto National Museum Collection! They existed. I know it's a locative name, Hell, even Wikipedia acknowledges their existence.
In other words, I can document it up one side and down the other, but I'm going to have to generate more paper to do so. Big huffy sigh.
I will, of course, go look again tomorrow when I am not so completely brain fried by a sucky week at work - but I doubt I'll find it.
I have been enjoying Tales of Times Now Past this week and am fairly close to the end of it. Today, I was musing upon a story I know
tatsushu will remember. It's basically an extended poo joke that rather reminds me of the pie eating contest story from Stand By Me. A minister owes his retainers their salary in rice and doesn't pay it. They show up at his home en masse to demand it. He keeps them waiting outside the gates on a hot day for several hours, then allows them in in small groups, offering them salted fish and ripe plums (and notably no rice), which they devour. The sake is served very late and it is pretty foul, but they're so thirsty they drink it all. Finally the minister appears and explains that the harvest has been so bad that season that his housemaids are going hungry and they don't have rice to serve to guests, much less pay retainers with. Intestinal rumbling and fartage begins to ensue. Soon they're all running for the exits with horrible diarrhea, because their strategically chosen refreshments had been laced with an herbal laxative as well. This humiliating joke is taken with remarkably good spirits by the victims who, instead of trying to avenge themselves on the man who still owes them their pay, marvel at his cleverness.So I joined the WK Artisan's thingy. Navigation of the site is not exactly intuitive, and I'm honestly not certain whether that's bad design on the part of the forum or my own Luddite tendencies to misunderstand the design of the forum. I resolutely steered clear of the discussion on the bardic forum, created a profile, tossed up a handful of photos and got two very nice notes. One was from a lady from Oertha who I met more than a year ago at Estrella and barely remembered until she gave me a memory jog (I'd helped with some garb questions for her son), The other was from a man from up near Mount Shasta who I have not met, and who saw my profile and went to my website link for a look around. His daughter is interested in Japanese culture though she "gets it rather off center." (Hmmm, anime fan, perhaps? If so, she would not be the first.) He wrote: "If the opportunity arises, I would like her to meet Saionji and gain some understanding. Perhaps a "gift" of period era coins made for your persona would meet a tuition fee. Tell me your era and I crank them out." After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I thanked him for his kind thoughts, then told him that the Japanese didn't even mint their own coins until the 17th century. Remember the guys demanding their rice rations? Japan measured income in rice during our period, and what coinage they did use was bought from the Chinese.
Please go admire this.
erink did a beautiful job. Please go admire these. I knew Katherine was awesome when I met her at Pennsic two years ago, but now she's doing JAPANESE!!!! I am extremely jealous. At least she's letting me snag photos for Samurai Eye.
