What exactly have I gotten myself into?
Apr. 18th, 2008 07:34 pmThis is not going to be like the average SCA class where I get anywhere from two to ten people - if I'm really lucky. It's not even going to be like Known World Costuming & Rattan, where I got twenty or so for the sideless surcote class. This is a convention for costuming. SCA attendees are only part of the equation. Instead of a tiny SCA-Japanese niche, I expect to see attendees from the anime/manga/cosplay part of the spectrum, and I could get quite a lot of them.
Here's the thing. I don't know jack about anime. I'm not into it, it's never really grabbed me.
OK, I have actually done some homework when it comes to historical Japanese clothing or I wouldn't have let myself be roped into this gig, but anime? Only this afternoon someone posted a question about a "hime-cut" to Immortal Geisha. I scratched my head and went a Googlin'. (Which is not, praise John Fogarty, the same as Chooglin'.) Please compare the following:


Bangs???? Hime don' wear no BANGS! Sidelocks yes, but bangs?
It's my understanding that the character is supposed to be a miko (Shinto shrine maiden). The woman on the right actually is one and her vestments have their origin in Heian women's underwear, which later became fashionable as outerwear during the Kamakura period (see scroll drawing at far left). The toon is also wearing hitatare instead of a kosode: note the artistically flying strings at the lapels and the drawstrings in her billowingly not-kosode-sleeves.
This is a bucket of freshly caught squid I just cannot embroil myself in during the presentation. If someone asks me for an opinion about what some toon in some series is wearing, I'm going to have to say, "Sorry, I'm not a fan, I can't comment without having seen it." Well, shucky darn. Or should I say, shigata ga nai.
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Date: 2008-04-19 10:49 am (UTC)As for the bangs, that's an anime thing that you see a lot of, even if they're doing "historical" manga. I have some Heian era based series (like this one) that stay pretty accurate as to clothing, but they fudge on the hair of the main characters and add bangs because that's the manga style.
In one of the manga I read (Kaze Hikaru, set during the 1860's), the artist actually angsts about not being historically accurate in the hairstyles, but she had to make the lead characters "cute" so that the series would sell (it worked, the series is on its 23rd volume). She does do her best on other details, and usually writes something about her research in the back of each volume.
But yeah, I think your answer of not being able to comment without having seen the character in question is quite sensible and should work fine for you.
Looks like you've got a great presentation lined up! Good luck with it, and have fun!
The Cute, It Burns Us!
Date: 2008-04-19 04:05 pm (UTC)Here's the class description which appears on the convention website. I think it's pretty clear what the focus is, and it's not 'Toons.
"An overview of historical fashions from the Heian, Kamakura, Muromachi and Momoyama Period and practical suggestions on how to replicate them.
"Before the Shogun: Pre-Edo Japanese Historical Dress" explores the native dress of Japan from its early history through 1600. We will explore such topics as early Chinese influences, the development of native styles and the transition of a humble undergarment to a national ethnic costume. We will also discuss how to successfully replicate the costume of the period. Lisa Joseph is a member of the Society For Creative Anachronism, with an interest in feudal Japan. She has re-created both male and female looks from the Heian, Kamakura and Momoyama periods."
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Date: 2008-06-01 02:30 am (UTC)