Why all the fuss?
Oct. 27th, 2008 06:40 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Saturday night I had a dream about standing in the Wyckoff Deli (a place in New Jersey I have not been to since the 1990s) on a cold, rainy day, waiting in line to place a lunch order. Paul Bettany ("Master and Commander," "The Da Vinci Code,") walked in, came over to me and gave me a huge, somewhat soggy hug. I remember the smell of wet wool pea coat and his bony chin digging into the top of my head. I made fun of the very British way he pronounced pasta fagiola as we waited to be served and tried to decide what to have. "We're in Jersey. It's pasta fazOOL!" Which all goes to prove - what?
As of this evening, it has been confirmed that the person who wants to dance with a sword at an SCA event as a shirabyoshi believes in reincarnation. She claims to have had dreams she believes in, including one in which "I was dancing with a very large curved blade slender and the dance was irregular in beat
but very beautiful."
I don't know from past lives. This old earth doggie has not personally experienced anything to lead me to believe I've been here before. I've known people who have. If I had all the answers they'd have to pay me more.
Whatever one believes, this woman had a dream that inspired her. There's just one problem. She hasn't done the homework to confirm or refute whether her dream perception is based in historical fact. It's not research. Not yet.
Why does this matter so much? After all, isn't the SCA an assortment of like-minded crackpots to begin with?
In some ways, yes. However, there are some people who believe that those of us who occupy certain non-Western minority niches should go away and like to finger point and naysay. Those of us in that niche often work very hard to do what we do because it inspires us and we love it just as much as our European brethren. We are so few and yet so visible for our different choice, some of us DO worry about being made to look bad.
This woman has already been made to look bad by a Mistress of the Laurel who helped teach her to make a Genuwine Keemonah that wouldn't pass muster at a Halloween party.
What she does next is up to her. I can only hope....
(On the other hand, the Barbie kumihimo lady over on the Tousando seems like she's very willing to learn - I have thrown her the link to Tangwystl's awesome historical dolls. )
As of this evening, it has been confirmed that the person who wants to dance with a sword at an SCA event as a shirabyoshi believes in reincarnation. She claims to have had dreams she believes in, including one in which "I was dancing with a very large curved blade slender and the dance was irregular in beat
but very beautiful."
I don't know from past lives. This old earth doggie has not personally experienced anything to lead me to believe I've been here before. I've known people who have. If I had all the answers they'd have to pay me more.
Whatever one believes, this woman had a dream that inspired her. There's just one problem. She hasn't done the homework to confirm or refute whether her dream perception is based in historical fact. It's not research. Not yet.
Why does this matter so much? After all, isn't the SCA an assortment of like-minded crackpots to begin with?
In some ways, yes. However, there are some people who believe that those of us who occupy certain non-Western minority niches should go away and like to finger point and naysay. Those of us in that niche often work very hard to do what we do because it inspires us and we love it just as much as our European brethren. We are so few and yet so visible for our different choice, some of us DO worry about being made to look bad.
This woman has already been made to look bad by a Mistress of the Laurel who helped teach her to make a Genuwine Keemonah that wouldn't pass muster at a Halloween party.
What she does next is up to her. I can only hope....
(On the other hand, the Barbie kumihimo lady over on the Tousando seems like she's very willing to learn - I have thrown her the link to Tangwystl's awesome historical dolls. )
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Date: 2008-10-28 04:36 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-10-28 06:05 am (UTC)I am losing patience with people who want to wear fairy wings.
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Date: 2008-10-28 04:13 pm (UTC)What bothers me are the revisionists. I had one of the "Yellow Veilers" tell me once that courteseans were "not prostitutes." No, seriously. She wanted to pretend that the hookers were not actually having sex for money. That offends me much more than people being silly and obvious. Lying about history is not okay.
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Date: 2008-10-28 07:09 am (UTC)I can *so* sympathize with the "but I dreamt it so it must be true" ... I can no longer count how many times some said, "So I dreamt about my heraldry, and what I saw in my dream was...."
I must say, I'm quite inspired by the discussion of the NEED to do research correctly! You're making me think about my own garb and accessories.
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Date: 2008-10-28 10:28 am (UTC)Both you and Ii-dono have been extremely kind in your replies to her. Well-done! It keeps the whole business from descending into a wank-fest.
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Date: 2008-10-28 02:09 pm (UTC)I get the Barbie (she wants to do historical dolls). But where does the kumihimo come in?
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Date: 2008-10-28 05:19 pm (UTC)I understand your desire to put the best foot forward for our "niche" and that people who do a crap job can make us all look bad, but honestly, measure yourself and no one else. I don't think anyone would say you don't do your research, and that you don't do beautiful period work. One crackpot will not make or break the perception of Asian personas in the SCA, any more than one more t-shirt & jean wearing duke in court will change the SCA's stance on "minimum standards."
Do what you enjoy, give advice and help where you can, and lead by example. You are the only one who you need to impress. If you act with honor in what you do, what she does will not rub off on you in anyones opinion that you would care about.
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Date: 2008-10-29 12:33 am (UTC)Giri, giri, giri, giri, giri.
There's a reason I answer the same questions over and over and over and over and over every day I'm in range of a computer. There's a reason I got on a plane and went to YOUR Twelfth Night instead of the one in my own kingdom. There's a reason I was willing to go out on a limb and camp with half a dozen people I barely knew for several days. (Turned out to be sheer delight, even with bad weather.) There's a reason I've had a steady stream of visitors from throughout the Known World clamoring for the privilege of sleeping on a futon and banging their elbows in my dinky stall shower this year.
The SCA Japanese community that I interact with on a regular basis is small, far flung, challenged by availability of resources, research information, language skills, and so forth. We network. We share information. We teach each other. We learn from each other. We are Clan.
When someone in my clan does something that makes us look bad, I mind.
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Date: 2008-10-29 01:14 am (UTC)I'm just saying, help, inspire, instruct, but don't be hard on yourself because someone else is baka.
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Date: 2008-10-29 06:46 pm (UTC)How is this translating to being hard on myself????
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Date: 2008-10-28 06:58 pm (UTC)(Well, I did shovel manure for about 20 years worth of weekends, but I didn't die. Though I did fall in the manure truck once.....)