Well, THAT'S bloody irritating

[gurdymonkey]

The PDF submission form on the WK Herald's page has locked up like it's got a curse on it. It won't print, it won't scroll up or down, and I'm wondering if it's about to crash my browser. Nope. I closed it. Now I can't even open it.

Damn it, I'm going to have to write it up from scratch. Again. With all the kanji pasted in to the appropriate spots. And all the mother swiving page numbers from NCMJ. Assuming I can even get the blasted thing to open. Which it won't do now.

I'm sticking my notes here for the time being.

1. Saionji 西園寺, translates as "Western garden temple." This locative name does not appear in Name Construction In Mediaeval Japan , however, its component elements can be found on pages 104 ("West," "sai"), 142 ("Garden," "sono"), and 138 ("Buddhist temple, " "ji") of the  Revised Edition. The Saionji were a branch of the aristocratic Fujiwara family which rose to prominence in the 13th century. (Phonetic pronunciation "SIGH ohn JEE").
(ATTACH p. 528 of Papinot's Historical and Geographical Dictionary of Japan).
How much you wanna bet I'd better explain that the Chinese reading of  園 isn't in NCMJ?
 

2. Hanae: "hana" ("Flower") 花appears on p. 168 of NCMJ  and "e" ("Inlet")  江 appears on p. 151, of NCMJ. (Phonetic pronunciation Hahn-EYE.)

Comments

[karisu-sama.livejournal.com]

I've never thought of Hanae as sounding like "Hahn-EYE", but I guess it does when you say "Hah nah eh" fast. :)

[cryptocosm.livejournal.com]

Interesting - the form seems to be working for me, even to pasting your notes into the documentation section (once I had gone to the trouble of downloading the Japanese fonts needed.) I didn't try printing it out. If the problem persists for you then Hirsch will want to know about it.

[gurdymonkey.livejournal.com]

Just tried it again first thing this morning: got the file to open, typed something into it, sent it to the printer and got a blank page for my trouble.

Will try it on the printer at work to see if the same thing happens and will email Hirsch if problems persist.

More sources, if desired

[tatsushu.livejournal.com]

Some more sources for you:

http://books.google.co.th/books?id=muhAPvjxXnQC&lpg=PA121&ots=1VXD63dLrw&dq=saionji%20temple&hl=en&pg=PA121#v=onepage&q=saionji%20temple&f=false

Hmmm... do a search on google for Saionji temple and look at the Google Books Results. Specifically:

"Sacred gardens and landscapes: ritual agency"

It dates the Saion Temple (Saionji) to its founding in the Heian period and its use as a surname. It doesn't document the kanji, but the SCA doesn't register kanji, so you don't need to worry about that so much. Page 121.

http://www.shokoku-ji.or.jp/english/e_kinkakuji/history/index.html
The Sokokuji (actual name of the current Saionji--which is famous for the golden pavillion) likely documents the name in the history of the temple.

As long as you can show "Saionji" is a period surname you don't need to worry about kanji, etc. (let alone the Chinese reading of any given kanji).

Hope that helps!

Re: More sources, if desired

[tatsushu.livejournal.com]

Sorry, that should read "Shokokuji", not "Sokokuji".

Re: More sources, if desired

[gurdymonkey.livejournal.com]

Thanks, but I discovered a nice description of the founding of the Saionji (temple and family) in my copy of "The Clear Mirror" after I posted that last night. That ought to do the job.