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Several months ago, O My Readers, She Who Sucks The Least took on the myth of the Front Tied Obi.

Today's mental excursion comes courtesy of comments made by one of my friends who lives too far away to raid my library. To wit: "Samurai? Not Heian. They show up in the next era, Kamakura, which was more militaristic.....Sushi? Not Heian. Yes, they ate fish, but not sushi as we know it.....Tea? Not Heian. That's Chinese and showed up a few centuries later....Geisha? Not Heian. They're about 16th C."

Let us begin with Assertion Number One, that samurai are not Heian.
Granted, if you run a web-page on the Heian period (794-1185 CE) through a translation engine, the name of the era will be loosely translated as "Peaceful."


http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/fukusyoku/wayou/11.htm
So, who's guarding the Emperor in his new capital of Heian-kyo (the "capital of peace and tranquility," now Kyoto)? He has guards, such as this fellow in uniform here. We know this from descriptions in diaries of the period, although they might be fulfilling such ceremonial and festive functions as twanging bowstrings at the New Year to frighten off demons.  Now as anyone who has managed not to walk out on "The Last Samurai" knows, the word "samurai" derives from an archaic form of the Japanese verb "to serve."  As in servant. Or palace guard. You see where I'm going with this.

People didn't just wake up one morning and say, "Today the Kamakura period starts." History doesn't work that way. Towards the end of the Heian period, there were two lines of succession in contention for the throne. The Taira clan supported one claimant. The Minamoto supported another. Things did not stay peaceful. The conflict known as the Genpei Wars raged for several years before the Minamoto smashed the Taira at Dan no Ura. Minamoto Yoritomo became shogun and formed a military government based in Kamakura. With the formation of the bakufu or "tent government", the military caste rose in status. (Which begs the question, who came up with that translation if the Japanese didn't have tents?)

The Emperor's role became more religious/ceremonial, though the retired emperors maintained cooperative relations with the shogunate during this period. Samurai were no longer palace guards in funny hats, they were part of the new order that would have a hand in the day-to-day feudal operations of the country.

Assertion Number Two "Sushi? Not Heian. Yes, they ate fish, but not sushi as we know it....."
Correct, actually. If you are eating stuff rolled up in seaweed, it's the Japanese equivalent of chop suey - invented to feed the roundeye.

 "Sushi" refers to the combination of fish and rice. If it's just the fish, it's sashimi. Originally, salted fish would be placed in a container between layers of rice, then weighted with stones. This preservation method caused fermentation of the fish - the rice would be discarded when the fish was consumed (nare-zushi). (Side note - the weighted lid method is still used for pickling vegetables as well.)
When curing time was reduced, the rice could be eaten instead of wasted, though it took on the tang of the salted fish (nama-nare-zushi).  The addition of rice vinegar reduced curing time to a single day with the same tangy flavor - this innovation supposedly dates from about 1600. The familiar nigiri-zushi, slices of fish served on a hand formed lump of vinegared rice, is credited to a 19th century Edo sushi seller.

Anyone whose ever eaten out with me may notice I usually order nigiri-zushi or chirashi (sashimi served over a bowl of rice) and I don't douse everything with soy and wasabi. Trust your sushi chef and enjoy the harmony of subtle flavors in what he puts before you.

Assertion Number Three: "Tea? Not Heian. That's Chinese and showed up a few centuries later...."

We-e-e-ll, not exactly. China and Japan had contact as early as the 6th century. Buddhism, a writing system, poetry, silk and sericulture, a spiffy and imposing Imperial Court system and yes, tea, were among the innovations the Chinese introduced to the Japanese. Okakura Kazuko's Book of Tea mentions Emperor Shomu "giving tea to one hundred monks at his palace in Nara. The leaves were probably imported by our ambassadors to the Tang Court and prepared in the way then in fashion."  Tea was, however, expensive and somewhat difficult to get, particularly when the Japanese Court terminated official relations with the Chinese. Buddhist monks did move back and forth and brought seeds back to Japan and planted them. In the 1200s, Zen priest Eisai wrote a treatise on the health benefits of drinking tea. Tea became popular with the ascendant samurai caste. During the 1300s, a game called tocha became popular - guests would be served multiple cups of tea and try to guess where the tea had come from. Given the nature of similar games involving incense that date from the Heian, it could be argued that the format of these tea games might be a form of tea ceremony, particularly as one would have to have good taste if one was an adept player. Early forms of what we think of as tea ceremony (preparation of the drink before one's guests in a small chamber) date from the late 1400s.

Assertion Number Four: "Geisha? Not Heian. They're about 16th C."

Not Heian, but not 16th century either.  Geisha are entertainers. In fact the word translates to "art person" or "artist." There were entertainers during the Heian period. They just weren't geisha. The first so called geisha were male and began entertaining in the licensed pleasure quarters of the Tokugawa regime in the 18th century.  Go here for details.

Date: 2008-07-17 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joycebre.livejournal.com
now I'm curious - what was commonly drunk if tea was rare and expensive? Did they have a different hot drink? (note that I'm not asking if they drank water or beer or rice wine - I'm interested in hot drinks for the purpose of this question)

Date: 2008-07-17 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com
When I see anything mentioned in diaries, stories or poetry of the period, it's sake (which can be served warmed in cold weather).

A certain person who frequents the Japanese SCA lists insists they got enough hydration from their food that they did not drink water, but I find that rather difficult to believe.

Date: 2008-07-17 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowywolfowl.livejournal.com
Almost impossible to do, physiologically. Sure the food will provide electrolytes and nutrients, but if they are eating salted fish, they would need water.

Especially after a hard day of backbreaking labour planting rice, or fighting on a battlefield.

Thank you for the information. I found it pretty useful for a novel I'm working on.

Date: 2008-07-17 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karisu-sama.livejournal.com
they got enough hydration from their food that they did not drink water

I'm not buying it either, unless they were compulsive broth-soup consumers.... :p~~~~

Date: 2008-07-17 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiofiorina.livejournal.com
Just to say "Thank you" - I gave up fighting for the "good case" (as easy as modern Japan, not even deeply into history, just the normal nowaday Japan as I experienced it during my homestay and the last 12 years of Japanese language & culture lessons) already years ago. I just got fed up with people just wanting to hear their prejudices confirmed.
I still have such people to deal with, when doing guided tours resp. museums educational work. But then I am not set back with a comment "you are not even Japanese" in the historic field.
Again - thank you :-)

Date: 2008-07-17 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karisu-sama.livejournal.com
anyone who has managed not to walk out on "The Last Samurai

Didn't see it in a theater, resisted seeing it for years because I figured it was "just another exalted white dude Marty-Stu proving he's the most bad-ass dude in the Asian world" movie.

We eventually rented it / gave it the benefit of the doubt based on hearing more about it, and were fairly pleased to find it not quite the disrespectful culture-co-oting film we'd feared. The title seemed to refer to Ken Watanabe's character Katsumoto, not Tom Cruise, and the obligatory movie "potential love interest" refreshingly didn't knee-jerkedly end up in a full-blown hot 'n heavy love affair.

Date: 2008-07-17 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com
There are things about TLS that make me want to throw things. Overly ponderous dialogue. Tom Cruise.

There are things about TLS that actually succeed.
Someone actually bothered to look at photos from Meiji-period Japan because the costume design and art direction are very good. The Japanese cast out-acts Cruise off the screen again and again and again. That includes the children.


Date: 2008-07-17 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karisu-sama.livejournal.com
Yeah, we don't care for Tom Cruise either. :)

Date: 2008-07-17 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danabren.livejournal.com
I freely (and meekly) admit to cocking up #4 entirely - SO NOT 16TH CENTURY, DUMBASS! GO RE-READ DALBY AND DON'T COME BACK UNTIL YOU'RE DONE!

And I would never ever say that you're wrong because hello, duh, you know tons more stuff than I do and that would just be ignorant on my part, but I stand by my statement that samurai AS WE KNOW THE CONCEPT isn't Heian. Absolutely, there were guards, and warriors, and honor. But the respected Samurai warrior caste, powerful and enviable, with a code that is followed by suit-wearing round-eye aren't Heian. They're just... *sniff* brawlers.

*fastidiously moves one sleeve away slightly from the man who prefers battle over a poem*

I'm posting a link on my LJ here because you answer these questions better than I ever could. You should move back East so that I can devour your library. And brain. And stuff :)
From: [identity profile] gurdymonkey.livejournal.com
Clearly, you are not spending time with the *right* samurai. Though that heartless bastard from Mutsu hasn't written a word in an awfully long time.

Oh, and keep your chopsticks out of my brain!
From: [identity profile] danabren.livejournal.com
Oh, and keep your chopsticks out of my brain!

nommm nommm nommm

Date: 2008-07-17 02:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xrian.livejournal.com
The phrase, "Well, yes, there were, but they weren't at all like you're probably thinking....." comes to mind here ;)

Date: 2008-07-17 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ldyanna.livejournal.com
What about the brown rice tea that they have now? I know it has green tea in it but maybe back then it was just the rice??

Never mind, I looked it up before I posted and it is possible that genmaicha is only about 90 years old.

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